Even though there was a lot of evidence, much of which was released, and how Epstein exploited young girls and invited associates to participate, the FBI concluded that he was not running a trafficking ring.

Joe Rogan has now explained the extent of his involvement with Epstein and made a comment on his podcast. He berated Canadian theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss on Tuesday’s episode of The Joe Rogan Experience after his name came up in the Epstein files and the scientist discussed Rogan with Epstein in a 2017 email exchange.

In an email from September 2017, Epstein wrote to Krauss, “I saw you did the Joe Rogan show, can you introduce me? I think he is funny.”

Krauss had been on Rogan’s podcast earlier in the same year, and replied with, “I will reach out to Rogan.”

In a follow-up email about the matter, the scientist apologized to Epstein, saying that Rogan did not seem interested in a meeting, writing, “He seems more timid than I would have thought.”

“I am in the files for not going because Jeffrey Epstein was trying to meet with me,” Rogan said on his podcast, where the guest was Cheryl Hines, the wife of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., on Tuesday.

Hines asked Rogan if he was “glad” he had never agreed to a meeting, to which Rogan replied, “yes.”

“It was not even a possibility that I would have ever went,” Rogan shared.

“I was like, are you high? What are you talking about?” Rogan recalled his reaction to when Krauss asked him about the possibility, he shared this without naming Krauss in the episode.

He shared that he believed only those interested in “s**king up to the rich and powerful” got involved with Epstein.

“Some people get intoxicated by being in a circle of rich and powerful people. They just want to be around them,” he said.

On the Tuesday episode of his podcast he reacted to an ABC news piece titled “FBI Concluded Jeffrey Epstein Was Not Running a S** Trafficking Ring For Powerful Men, Files Show,” to which Rogan responded, “That is the gaslightiest gaslighting s*** I’ve ever heard in my life.”

“What do they think was going on? Just men having cocktails and talking about science?” he said. The FBI concluded that they had substantial evidence that Epstein took advantage of young women and girls, but not enough to conclude that he ran a sex trafficking ring, said ABC’s review of Department of Justice records.

Photos seized from Epstein’s homes in New York, Florida, and the Virgin Islands did not implicate anyone else in his crimes, according to the 2025 prosecutor’s memo.

A review of Epstein’s financial records also found no evidence that linked transactions to criminal activity. These records included payments made to known figures in academia, finance, and global diplomacy, according to another memo that was circulated internally in 2019.

Earlier this week, members of Congress were granted access to unredacted versions of the files to confirm that no evidence was improperly withheld.

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